Photo: Photosport Brodie Retallick and Sam Whitelock prepare to pack down in a scrum against the British and Irish Lions. Locks Samuel Whitelock and Brodie Retallick, loose forwards Liam Squire and Sam Cane and backs Beauden Barrett and Ryan Crotty will stay home next week before joining up with the squad in Cape Town.The 28-man squad to travel to Buenos Aires includes the return of loose forwards Jerome Kaino and Matt Todd and lock Patrick Tuipulotu.Coach Steve Hansen says they want to manage the squad across a demanding playing and international travel schedule at the back end of the 2017 season.The squad to travel to Argentina is:Forwards: Wyatt Crockett, Kane Hames, Nepo Laulala, Jeffery Toomaga Allen, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Dane Coles, Codie Taylor, Nathan Harris, Scott Barrett, Luke Romano, Patrick Tuipulotu, Vaea Fifita, Jerome Kaino, Kieran Read (captain), Ardie Savea and Matt Todd.Backs: Tawera Kerr-Barlow, TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Lima Sopoaga, Anton Lienert-Brown, Ngani Laumape, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, David Havili, Damian McKenzie, Nehe Milner-Skudder and Waisake Naholo.A group of players will also head home after the Argentina Test, with details confirmed following the Buenos Aires Test match.All Blacks Head Coach Steve Hansen said it was vital to try and keep players fresh and performing at their very best at this time of the year, with the All Blacks playing eight matches in nine weeks across multiple time zones, taking in the back end of the Investec Rugby Championship, the third Bledisloe Cup match and the end of year Tour.”We struggled at times last year, this is the hardest time of the year for us, so we are just trying to think outside the box and think of ways to keep the players fresh. This also gives us a chance to build player depth and experience.”It puts a lot of pressure on us going to Argentina because they are a good side and we’ll need to play well to perform there, but we’re confident that the group we are taking there will be able to do the job.”Meanwhile, replacement players Akira Ioane and Tim Perry will return to their Mitre 10 Cup provincial teams, while Nathan Harris and Jerome Kaino will also play for their provinces this week.The All Blacks squad will travel to Argentina on Friday.
PSG broke the Champions League round of 16 hex and went to the next round after defeating Borussia of Dortmund 2-0. The Parisians advanced from round, but the image was produced at the end of the meeting, when the players posed in a photo imitating Haaland’s gesture when he scores a goal. In fact, on the first goal that PSG scored, Neymar celebrated by imitating the Norwegian Dortmund striker. And just after the end of 90 minutes, all the members of the squad, with a smile in between, decided to make this gesture as a joke to the two goals that Dortmund’s scored in the first leg.
Alleged Police brutalityThe Essequibo Coast man whose leg was broken after reportedly being beaten by Police in Region Two will, among other things, be charged for disorderly behaviour.This is so according to Police Public Relations Officer Jairam Ramlakhan, who explained that the 29-year-old Junior Courtman of Queenstown, Essequibo Coast is, in the coming days, likely to be slapped with at least five charges for causing harm to Police officers and for general misbehaviour.“Charges were recommended by the legal advisor…he can be charged for what they call riotous behaviour in a public place, causing actual bodily harm, and two charges for assaulting two officers,” Ramlakhan pointed out.Questioned about the allegations Courtman had made against the Police — that they had beaten him, Ramlakhan noted that there was not enough evidence to support Courtman’s statement.“The report stated that there is no evidence to show, support, or substantiate he (Courtman) was assaulted by any of the ranks. There is no evidence to substantiate that, based on the doctor’s report and the medical and some statements (taken). The (ranks) said that he jump out of the vehicle,” Ramlakhan said.The father of three recently told this newspaper that he was out at a wash bay with three of his friends on the evening of June 20, when, at about 23:30hr, a vanload of Police officers pulled up and searched them. According to him, nothing was found in their possession, so the Police ordered them to go home.Courtman said he and his friends left the wash bay, and when he got about 50 feetThe condition of Junior Courtman, who was admitted to the Georgetown Public Hospitalaway from the location, he realised he had left his phone, and returned for it.“So I went back to get my phone, but they were still there where we were, and when I went back, one of them jump out de vehicle and come and hold me and push me off my bike…so I told them I goin for my phone, and he start pushin me and chuckin me and cuff me in my eye,” the injured man related.He admitted that after the rank had done this to him, he and the rank engaged in a scuffle, and two other ranks left the vehicle with a baton and a gun, and started to attack him.“When they done beating me, they throw me in de vehicle, because I couldn’t ah get up to walk; and then they took me to the (Anna Regina Police) station. And when I reach there, they told me to get up and come out de vehicle, but I couldn’t ah get up, so they beat me again and drag me into the station and put me on a bench to sit down,” Courtman had said.Courtman said the Police subsequently took away all of his belongings, and were about to place him in the lockups. He claimed the Police prepared a statement, which he did not sign, given that the occurrences the Police had documented were not accurate.He said he was taken to the Suddie Hospital upon request by a female officer, and was subsequently transferred to the Georgetown Public Hospital (GPHC), where he was being treated for his broken leg.The man who plies his trade as a carpenter and mason in his village said he was expecting to undergo a surgery to rectify his foot, which was allegedly broken by the ranks.Commander of G Division, Essequibo, Khali Pareshram, said he was aware of one such case in the zone, which to his knowledge is being investigated by Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR). He was, however, unable to say whether it was the same case.
0Shares0000Showtime sports said the August fight between boxing star Mayweather and mixed martials arts king McGregor generated 4.3 million pay-per-view buys in North America © GETTY IMAGES NORTH AMERICA/AFP/File / Ethan MillerLOS ANGELES, United States, Dec 15 – Floyd Mayweather and Conor McGregor’s cross-combat superfight was the second richest boxing bout in history, long-awaited final figures revealed on Friday.A statement from Showtime sports said the August fight between boxing star Mayweather and mixed martials arts king McGregor generated 4.3 million pay-per-view buys in North America. Only one other fight — Mayweather’s 2015 bout with Manny Pacquiao — has ever drawn more, racking up 4.6 million buys to earn around $600 million.The Mayweather-McGregor pay-per-view total is almost double the third biggest fight of all time, Oscar De La Hoya’s 2007 fight with Mayweather, which had 2.48 million buys.Showtime said in a statement that global revenues, including ticket sales, sponsorship and international distribution, Mayweather and McGregor had exceeded $600 million.“The pairing of Floyd Mayweather and Conor McGregor brought together two very significant and distinct global fan bases in one truly unprecedented event,” Showtime Sports chief Stephen Espinoza told ESPN.“The remarkable results are all the more impressive considering that the planning, marketing and execution took place across a span of just 72 days from the initial announcement to fight night.”The Mayweather-McGregor fight was widely dismissed as a circus before the bout, which was eventually won by Mayweather — returning from a two-year retirement — with a 10th round knockout.Meanwhile Philippine boxing hero Pacquiao said last week he too was seeking his own showdown with McGregor, confirming he had opened talks with the Irishman to possibly fight in April.0Shares0000(Visited 1 times, 1 visits today)
The tax collectors put up a mature performance to pick their third win of the season in eight games and head coach Ken Kenyatta hopes it will spur them to bounce back to the top.“There’s still a long way to go but we need to keep on bagging points to get back to the top. It was a tough match today but we put up some good shift which saw us win. It has given us some motivation moving forward,” head coach Ken Kenyatta said.Bill Oporia scored twice after Benson Amianda’s opener while Nairobi Stima scored a late consolation through former Tusker FC forward Stephen Owusu from the penalty spot.Ushuru FC midfielder Ekaliani Ndolo vies for the ball against Nairobi Stima’s Anthony Otieno during a National Super League match at the Camp Toyoyo Ground on March 25, 2018. PHOTO/Timothy OlobuluAmianda broke the deadlock in the 16th minute when he rose highest inside the box to thump a header past the Ushuru keeper, meeting up with Fan Ngaira’s corner.Before the goal, both teams had chances at goal, first Oporia failing to guide the ball into an empty net from a yard out after Enock Agwanda had squared the ball to him from the right in the 12th minute.Two minutes later, Stima had a chance but Owusu could not punish an error from Ushuru defender Nelson Marasowe who lost the ball cheaply. The Nairobi Stima Ghanaian forward’s attempt to stick the ball into the bottom right corner was met with a well taken save from the Ushuru keeper.After going ahead, Ushuru dictated the tempo of the game. Stima did well to try and disrupt the tempo, but they did not use the ball well when they had possession, often losing it cheaply in the final third.Ushuru FC defender Fan Ngaira vies for the ball against Nairobi Stima’s Timothy Otieno during a National Super League match at the Camp Toyoyo Ground on March 25, 2018. PHOTO/Timothy OlobuluUshuru should have doubled the lead in the 35th minute when Oporia picked up Oscar Mbugua with a well weighted pass inside the box, but the midfielder could not beat the Stima keeper one on one.His blushes were however wiped three minutes to half time, much thanks to Stima keeper Daniel Odhiambo’s butter fingers, the shot stopper failing to hold on to a cross from Agwanda and Oporia having the simple task of nodding the ball inside an empty net.Oporia completed his brace 13 minutes after the restart with a decent finish inside the box after picking up a Patrick Macharia miscued shot to place it calmly beyond the keeper.Stima had a late consolation with 20 minutes left on the clock when Owusu scored from the spot after John Kang’ethe was brought down inside the box by Fredrick Kentile.Nairobi City Stars skipper Arthur Museve challenges for the ball against a Kibera Black Stars player during a National Super League match at the Camp Toyoyo Ground on March 25, 2018. PHOTO/Timothy OlobuluIn the early kick off, City Stars capitalized on a slow start to the game by Black Stars scoring two quick goals, Stephen Iganji breaking the deadlock three minutes into the game before Abdulrahman Mango doubled the tally in the 13th minute.Black Stars pulled one back in the 25th minute through Ronald Ochieng. They should have had more goals especially in the second half when City Stars sat back to defend, but poor finishing cost them.“We started badly gifting them two easy goals which we should never have and ended up paying for it. I think I am pleased with my team because most of them are young and playing at this stage for the first time. We will grow as we progress,” Black Stars coach Geoffrey Oduor said.0Shares0000(Visited 4 times, 1 visits today) 0Shares0000Ushuru players celebrate the second of Billy Oporia’s goals against Nairobi Stima in a National Super League match at the Camp Toyoyo Ground on March 25, 2018. PHOTO/Timothy OlobuluNAIROBI, Kenya, Mar 24- Former Kenyan Premier League sides Ushuru FC and Nairobi City Stars stepped up their bid to return to the country’s top flight despite starting the season low with wins on Sunday in the National Super League.Ushuru were 3-1 winners over Nairobi Stima while City Stars picked up a nervy 2-1 win over Kibera Black Stars, both games staged at the Camp Toyoyo Ground in Nairobi.
GLENSWILLY GAA NOTESCongrats to Paddy TinneyWell done to club member Paddy Tinney who has been appointed as the incoming assistant treasurer for the Donegal County Board. Paddy was voted in at the board’s convention in the Mount Errigal Hotel on Sunday last. Well done Paddy on out appointment. Donegal Yearbook now availableThe Donegal GAA Yearbook is now available for club members through treasurer Bryan Faul. The book will make a perfect sticking filler for members for Christmas.ScorA meeting will take place in the clubhouse at 8pm on Thursday, Dec 17th for anyone interested in getting involved in the senior Scor competition. The competition is due to take place in January. Anyone interested but unable to attend the meeting can contact Sharon McGinty on 0863629737. BingoThe bingo will continue on Wednesdays over the Christmas period without a break which means it will be on as usual on December 23rd and, December 30th. The bingo starts at 9pm but players are asked to be there early.Lotto noteCan anyone who is unable to sell the lotto on their designated night please contact any committee member or the treasurer if they are not in a position to do so.Notes Can anyone who has anything for the weekly club notes please email them to email@example.com before Monday night. Thank you.GAA NEWS: GLENSWILLY MEMBER PADDY TINNEY APPOINTED ASSISTANT COUNTY TREASURER was last modified: December 15th, 2015 by StephenShare this:Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window)Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window)Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window)Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window)Click to share on Pocket (Opens in new window)Click to share on Telegram (Opens in new window)Click to share on WhatsApp (Opens in new window)Click to share on Skype (Opens in new window)Click to print (Opens in new window)Tags:Glenswilly GAA notes
Fianna Fáil Seanad Spokesperson on Agriculture, Senator Brian Ó Domhnaill has called on the Chief Executive Officer of Coillte to act responsibly, given the current economic climate and to take at least a 15pc pay cut which would be in line with reductions accepted by the CEOs of other semi state agencies who earn over €250,000.Senator Ó Domhnaill this weekend said ” The Coillte CEO is currently paid an annual salary of €297,024, and received an annual bonus payment of €56,435 in 2008, despite verbal and written instructions made to the Coillte board by the then Agriculture Minister Brendan Smith requesting that no bonus should be paid for 2008 and beyond.”“It is totally unacceptable in the current economic circumstances that any CEO of a semi state organisation would not, at the very least, take the 15pc pay reduction being requested by the Government. This attitude is mind boggling at a time when many families are struggling due to severe financial pressures as Christmas approaches.” “The Coillte CEO Mr Gunning was appointed as Chief Executive Officer from 20th March 2006 for a 7 year contract which is due to expire on 19th March 2013. Coillte have previously advised that revised pay rates applicable from 1 March 2008 and 1 September 2008 respectively have not been implemented.”“In the event that Mr Gunning is not prepared to take a pay cut voluntarily then I believe the Board of Coillte should meet and discuss what steps they propose to take to address this issue. I have also requested the Chairman of the Dail’s Agriculture Committee to have this issue discussed at our committee meeting scheduled for Tuesday next at 2pm.”COILLTE CEO MUST TAKE PAY CUT – Ó DOMHNAILL was last modified: November 27th, 2011 by BrendaShare this:Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window)Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window)Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window)Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window)Click to share on Pocket (Opens in new window)Click to share on Telegram (Opens in new window)Click to share on WhatsApp (Opens in new window)Click to share on Skype (Opens in new window)Click to print (Opens in new window)
Costa del Carrickfinn BeachGET stocked up on the sun cream – most of Donegal is set to enjoy more sizzling heat.Weather watchers say temperatures are predicted to remain in the mid to high 20 degrees centigrade until the end of the month…dipping this weekend before rising again next week. Today, tomorrow and Friday are expected to be similar to yesterday with temperatures forecast to peak in the high 20s. There is still some cloud around – and the odd shower in west Donegal – but the heat is going to remain intense with Friday looking like another scorcher.Light rain will bring a temporary reprieve from the seering heat on Saturday and Sunday before temperatures soar once again at the start of next week.But all good things must come to an end and forecasters are predicting persistent rain from August 2nd resulting in temperatures dropping to the mid teens. WEATHER UPDATE: DONEGAL SET TO SIZZLE IN 27C HEAT was last modified: July 23rd, 2014 by John2Share this:Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window)Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window)Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window)Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window)Click to share on Pocket (Opens in new window)Click to share on Telegram (Opens in new window)Click to share on WhatsApp (Opens in new window)Click to share on Skype (Opens in new window)Click to print (Opens in new window) Tags:donegalheat wavehotweather
Cleared: Cllr Frank McBreartyINDEPENDENT Councillor Frank McBrearty has been cleared of allegations that he assaulted a senior member of Fianna Fail.The Director of Public Prosecutions has told the former Mayor he has no case to answer – after Cllr Seamus O Domhnaill claimed he had been attacked. The Fianna Fail man had made a statement to Gardaí, prompting a six month investigation – after he claimed Cllr McBrearty has threatened and assaulted him at a county council meeting in Lifford last October.Cllr McBrearty had vehemently denied the claim, and he was backed by Fine Gael councillor Barry O’Neill who said the alleged incident “didn’t happen.”The alleged incident was the subject of much on-air debate, which Cllr McBrearty’s lawyers are now studying.Gardai interviewed 29 councillors and senior staff members at the council as part of the investigation.In a statement tonight Cllr McBrearty said: “After months of trivial, pointless, and redundant questioning, not to mention the unnecessary garda manpower which this whole non-event involved I have been told by the DPP that I will not be prosecuted.“The unnecessary anxiety and strain which these allegations have placed upon my family and myself, only served as an unwelcome reminder of the cruelties and injustices which we as a family have faced in the past.”“In addition to Cllr Ó Domhnaill’s initial declaration, I later learnt that in his statement to Gardaí, he made the accusation that I had also threatened to kill both himself and another Councillor – namely Cllr Barry O’Neill of Ballyshannon.“I categorically reject all of Cllr Ó Domhnaill’s accusations made against me.“In fact, this entire debacle has already strived to cause me, as well as my standing, considerable harm.”Cllr O’Neill said: “The whole thing was bizarre and that’s an understatement. I was named in Cllr O Domhnaill’s statement – which was read to me by Gardaí – as having also been threatened by Cllr McBrearty, but I was never assaulted or threatened that day by Cllr McBrearty or anyone else.”DONEGAL COUNCILLOR CLEARED OF ALLEGED ASSAULT – ON OTHER DONEGAL COUNCILLOR was last modified: May 13th, 2014 by John2Share this:Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window)Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window)Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window)Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window)Click to share on Pocket (Opens in new window)Click to share on Telegram (Opens in new window)Click to share on WhatsApp (Opens in new window)Click to share on Skype (Opens in new window)Click to print (Opens in new window) Tags:assaulassaultclearedCllr Barry O’NeillCllr Frank McBreartyCllr Seamus O DomhnaillDPPthreatening behaviour
According to widely accepted theory, planets evolve from orbiting dust disks surrounding stars. If so, planets trying to form in the dust around one young star didn’t have much time. The disk evaporated within 3 years.In “Astronomy: Warm dust makes a fast getaway” on Nature News, Margaret Moerchen summarized a paper by Melin et al., in Nature (“Rapid disappearance of a warm, dusty circumstellar disk,” 487 05 July 2012, pp. 74–76, doi:10.1038/nature11210) that is pretty shocking: “A rapid drop in infrared emission from a Sun-like star could indicate that a drastic event has cleared a circumstellar disk of dusty debris — the material from which planets form.”Describing the “generally accepted” planetesimal hypothesis, Moerchen bluffed that “We know that such processes were involved in forming the architecture of the Solar System, as well as that of the ever-increasing number of planetary systems being discovered around stars other than the Sun,” but then confessed that “the precise timescales and conditions required for the formation of planets in the disks are still under investigation,” to put it mildly: there’s at least 4 to 6 orders of magnitude difference between expectations and observations here. “Notably, even for some disks in which the amount of dust present is considered likely to be transient and evolving rapidly, significant changes in that amount are expected to take at least thousands of years,” she said. Another put it into the millions.None of the believers in the consensus planetesimal hypothesis expected to witness such a rapid change: reduction of infrared emission by a factor of 30 in 3 years, caused by, the astronomers believe, “a correspondingly drastic depletion of the dust disk” in short order. With characteristic understatement, Moerchen added, “the system in question is remarkable for the speed with which its surrounding material seems to have disappeared.” Where did it go? Why now? According to current theory, the star is 10 million years old. Why would it shed its dust disk right at the epoch when astronomers have the tools to watch it?Nature News wouldn’t leave an embarrassing problem like this unresolved, would it? Moerchen offered some suggestions, but alas, confessed, “However, these hypotheses… can be excluded…” Then she offered the authors’ favored two solutions, but added, “However, both models have unresolved issues.” A couple of other solutions were put forth unenthusiastically, because they are catastrophic: the runaway accretion model, and the collisional cascade model, “in which gravitationally bound dust grains experience successive cratering or wholly destructive collisions that eventually yield grains small enough to be blown out of the system” – i.e., complete pulverization to smithereens. That’s hardly conducive to planet formation, which is what the planetesimal hypothesis purports to explain.Moerchen ended with the best positive spin she could muster, commenting that “the extremely rapid changes in this dusty system are certain to provoke further discussion of planetary-system evolution.” Indeed, the authors themselves confessed in their abstract, “Such a phase of rapid ejecta evolution has not been previously predicted or observed, and no currently available physical model satisfactorily explains the observations.” Her final paragraph is a model of theory-rescuing rhetoric in the face of evidential disaster:The disappearance of the excess infrared radiation from TYC 8241 2652 1 in less than two years is incredibly fast by our current understanding, and the impact of this is difficult to predict. The dust-clearing models proposed by Melis et al. could be refined to bring them more into line with conventional theory. And theories that have been developed for other stars and that were adapted to TYC 8241 2652 1 could be redeveloped. However, perhaps the most exciting possibility is that the brightness drop represents a stage of terrestrial-planet formation that occurs so quickly that we have not been lucky enough to glimpse it until now.How did the popular press report this anomaly? PhysOrg led off with the banal evolutionary formula, “New study sheds new light on planet formation.” The press release from University of Georgia featured home boy Inseok Song standing proudly by his telescope while the university’s spin machine turned the anomaly into a victory for evolution theory: “A study published in the July 5 edition of the journal Nature is challenging scientists’ understanding of planet formation, suggesting that planets might form much faster than previously thought or, alternatively, that stars harboring planets could be far more numerous.” Yes, that’s right: instead of millions of years, planets might form in a few! Think of the possibilities that “new light” allows: rapidly forming planets could now be much more common! The press release author seemed to take liberties with Song’s more humble interpretation of the unexpected finding:“The most commonly accepted time scale for the removal of this much dust is in the hundreds of thousands of years, sometimes millions,” said study co-author Inseok Song, assistant professor of physics and astronomy in the UGA Franklin College of Arts and Sciences. “What we saw was far more rapid and has never been observed or even predicted. It tells us that we have a lot more to learn about planet formation.“There were even appeals to magic. “Now you see it, now you don’t,” quipped lead author Carl Melin of UC San Diego, describing the classic magician’s line. “Only in this case we’re talking about enough dust to fill an inner solar system, and it really is gone.” (See before-and-after artwork in the PhysOrg coverage). Ben Zuckerman of UCLA added his own analogy: “”It’s as if you took a conventional picture of the planet Saturn today and then came back two years later and found that its rings had disappeared.”Readers of the headline and not the fine print in the innards of the press release might miss this confession: “The researchers explored several different explanations for how such a large quantity of dust could disappear so rapidly, and each of their explanations challenges conventional thinking about planet formation… Like many important discoveries, the scientists’ finding raises more questions than it answers.” Song added that each one of the “uncomfortable” proposals to explain the phenomenon “has non-traditional implications.” Any answers are in the future: “my hope that this line of research can bring us closer to a true understanding of how planets form.”Here’s a non-traditional proposal that was actually traditional before secular evolutionists reclassified it as non-traditional: stars and planets were created, and because of the laws of thermodynamics, they are breaking up, not building up. Unfortunately, Song’s chosen “line of research” will never take him there, because that route has been ruled out of bounds by a certain minority of human beings with a lot of power.Well, isn’t this a fine situation we find science in today. We have “conventional thinking” that is dead wrong, findings that raise more questions than answers (as with “many important discoveries”), and non-traditional proposals that make people “uncomfortable”. Since when was comfort a requirement of truth? As they say, the truth hurts.Suppose you had left your house to the care of a steward, and returned to find all your possessions gone. Would you laugh if he gave you a sheepish grin and said, “Now you see it, now you don’t”? After pressing him for answers, would you be satisfied if he tossed out some possibilities, but said each of them has “unresolved issues”? Suppose he said he had developed an answer, but could redevelop it. Suppose he tried to cheer you up by saying that the unexpected disappearance was “sure to provoke further discussion.” Suppose he tried to impress you with the “exciting possibility” that the spontaneous disappearance of the material was so quick, we were never lucky enough to glimpse it until now! No; if you were too gracious to fire him on the spot, you would certainly demand a credible answer and give him a time limit to produce it.We entrust our scientists with the job of explaining the natural world. (Remember the big difference between scientific discovery and scientific explanation; it is noble to make these observations, but ignoble to maintain a false theory in the face of contradictory evidence by invoking ad hoc rescue devices that refuse to consider non-paradigmatic solutions, such as design). In any other line of business, a colossal failure of expectations of this magnitude would be grounds for dismissal. Honor would require the failing steward to step up to the plate and say, “I was wrong; I failed; I will resign.” These losers, including their publicists, should at least forgo any taxpayer dollars designated for their failed analysis until and unless they demonstrate return on investment to those paying for their services. They can continue to observe and report findings, but if they want to engage in speculative theorizing with no obligation to get the world right, let them start a Flat Disk Society and do it on their own time and their own dime. (Visited 22 times, 1 visits today)FacebookTwitterPinterestSave分享0